Where 'thin' libertarians discard their 'thin' skin like Cantwell and advocate state action, they are wrong. Where left-libertarians display their preference against police state measures in a way that aids the welfare state, they are "wrong" RE libertarian theory. This is how all solutions involving the state go. They are all imperfect and tainted due to the presence of the Ring of Gyges. Most of the sturm and drang still just seems like violent agreement to me as it concerns the NAP, but I suspect some are attempting to use it as a wedge for some hot-button.